Competitors & Comparisons
How do we know who is genuine and who is a scammer?
One Fraudulent seller that has numerous message boards and forums and roulette computer sites and paper system sites called Steven Hourmouzis (Operates from Australia) has just been Sued after the FBI and a FEDERAL CASE been made against him. The Judge saw it clearly as THEFT and His Wife Kylie Tjepkema was also held responsible jointly for the elaborate scam.
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Roulette Computer suppliers that are a Scam will blind you with science, fake ?demonstrations and conferences ,trick videos, fake testimonials, fake forums and review sites to get you to purchase at a distance with NO PROTECTION on getting your money back once you find out their products do not work. These sellers have no CREDIBILITY, Genuine Feedback or Payment protection plans. This is the golden rule when purchasing a roulette computer, make sure YOUR PAYMENT IS PROTECTED BY A THIRD PARTY and 100% REFUNDABLE ( Like eBay , Paypal and Escrow) AND YOU CAN OBTAIN YOUR PAYMENT BACK IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE PRODUCT YOU HAVE BEEN SUPPLIED! Anyone with a credit card and bank account can be paid through eBay and Paypal, so if the seller refuses to allow you to pay by this method, then it is OBVIOUS to anyone that its a SCAM!
THE GENUINE SELLERS- There is just one!
The Only Provider that supplies Genuine Roulette Computers with 100% PAYMENT PROTECTION is Mark Howe from the UK who owns several sites.
He Offers the following 100% Credibility when you purchase>
YOUR PAYMENT IS PROTECTED WITH A 100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY ( eBay and Paypal)- that means if you are not entirely satisfied that the product works, you get your money back and its our of control of the seller! You also get to leave bad feedback as a customer if it does not work!
HAS 100% FEEDBACK HISTORY(Genuine Customers reviews of the device they purchased) ON THE SALE OF ROULETTE COMPUTERS, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITHIN 14 DAYS OF RECEIVING THE ROULETTE COMPUTER YOU WILL BE ISSUED WITH A FULL UNCONDITIONAL REFUND on the return of the product!
DEMONSTRATED THE PRODUCT SUCCESSFULLY TO A WORLD RECOGNIZED NATIONAL NEWSPAPER ” The Guardian” in 2006 and a team of scientists and use to allow personal visits and demonstrations.
WHO TO AVOID BELOW. NOW LETS LOOK AT WHAT THE SCAMMER’S WHO CLAIM THEY HAVE THE SAME TECHNOLOGY AS WE HAVE BUT DO NOT OFFER 100%THE PAYMENT PROTECTION PLAN AND WHY THEY DO NOT OFFER IT!
Read on about others WHO DO NOT OFFER the 100% payment protection plan and try to get you to part with your money through lies and tricks and absently forget to offer you the most important FACTOR, that your PAYMENT IS 100% PROTECTED BY A THIRD PARTY!
A Few Tricks that Scammer’s use. .
1) Roulette Computer Comparisons & Features -We could create charts with features of the best Roulette computers and the worse, but this is competitors lying about each other, after all, they are going to rate their products at the top and everyone else would be a scam! Majority of people that do this are lying to you.
Imagine Joe Blog’gs owns a roulette computer site, you might see something like this.
Has you can see, the above picture is just a scam to convince you their product is the best, if they were genuine reviews, then the seller JOE BLOGGS would offer 100% payment protection Plans , then you could take their review site with authentic credibility.Who gives a hoot what the seller claims and that they have several million features, that they rank the theirs the best product, we just want to know it works and that we can use it and PROTECT OUR PAYMENT with a 100% refundable GUARANTEE IF IT DOES NOT!
Forums and Message Boards-We could host message boards where people write about the sellers computer and vote it the best and have fake posts claiming that the competitors products are pathetic and do not work, but that could be the owner of the message board posting as others, remember forums and message boards are a breeding ground for deception, so you should avoid them! They could claim they have the competitors software given away for free because it does not work, fake customers posting negative comments about competitors products. But its all FLIM FLAM, complete rubbish, what you do want is> 100% PAYMENT PROTECTION PLAN ON THEIR PRODUCTS, you are not interested in lies and BS.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU SHOULD CONSIDER IS HOW YOU PAY FOR YOUR ROULETTE COMPUTER PRODUCTS!! ALWAYS WITH A 100% PAYMENT PROTECTION PLAN BY A THIRD PARTY LIKE eBay and Paypal.
Competitors are not going to say a great deal that’s positive about their competitors, its like Mercedes saying they like BMW and that they have better cars. This is why we have performance pointers that DEAL with EXACT FACTS with Evidence , the cars acceleration, the fuel efficiency, price, etc. This separates common sense and facts from personal opinion and lies. Another good pointer is feedback from Real customers( With Proof of purchase) . But the most important FACTOR when buying such equipment is a fully refundable( no quibble or conditions) money back GUARANTEE and allowing part payment upfront! We are the only seller to offer this.(We give a 14 day Money Back Guarantee and allow 50% of costs upfront, the remainder to be paid within 28 days)
Lets look at the 4 main suppliers of such equipment. The last two on the list are owned by Steven Hourmouzis (formerly Imprisoned for internet Fraud and scamming people, no I am not joking, take a look here along with over 220 complaints to me about his roulette systems and scams) I am tell the truth and this comparison graph is genuine, why because I am MARK HOWE who offers 100% Payment protection plans through third parties, I have no reason to lie. You can ask the so called competitors yourselves if they will allow you to purchase through eBay and Paypal , they won’t!
THE REASON THAT OTHER SELLERS OF SUCH EQUIPMENT DO NOT ALLOW 100% PAYMENT PROTECTION BY THIRD PARTIES IS THAT THEIR METHODS AND SOFTWARE ARE BASED ON CONSISTENT ROTOR SPEEDS WHICH CASINOS DO NOT ALLOW AND WATCH OUT FOR ; SO THEIR PRODUCTS ARE ARE NOT FULLY FUNCTIONAL IN THE REAL MODERN CASINOS! They only WORK on their own videos where they spin consistently, if I were lying about this, they would offer a 100% money back guarantee like Mark Howe offers!
Most so called Cheap imitators rely on Consistent ROTOR speed(are within certain parameters) for their videos in order for their equipment and methods to work. Casinos having vast resources of money and paid independent Mathematicians and Analysts way back in the 1980?s when people were attacking wheels with basic software. Since then, ALL CASINOS throughout the world are told to mix up their spins, especially the rotor speed and not to become complacent. If you are lucky, you might come across such a sloppy dealer after weeks of visiting and have a lucky session whilst he or she is on their shift whilst the Pit Boss has his eyes on some pretty croupiers backside! ( Pit Boss is instructed to observe for sloppy Rotor spins and ball spins, paying out incorrect amounts, they are there not to look important, but serve a purpose!) I have the other 4 Vendors systems and methods as well as their written instructions and know Absolutely they rely on Consistent Rotor spins and Dealer Signature, their Videos demonstrate this. ( Their Videos are YOUR FACTUAL EVIDENCE that they are in fact tricking you and using Consistent Rotor Speeds).
Further Reading about Steven Hourmouzis. .
His Phone products are the most simplistic pieces of Junk I have ever come across, cheap Java programs (totally useless) made to look like they predict roulette when they cannot even deal with accurate timings (Java is known for inaccuracies in timing applications). One customer in France Paid $8,000 dollars and received a secondhand phone worth $40, some poorly made leads and after having both his products lost money over an 8 month period. He will definitely finish up going back to prison where he was imprisoned for Fraud and Scamming people previously.
Read more about roulettecomputers.com and genuinewinner.com products and how one customer hit back.
Avoid the VLSroulette.com. This site is a breeding ground for deception! He pretends to be his own customers and gives himself positive reviews. But if you check his videos, all his videos have Consistant ROTOR SPEEDS meaning you would never find conditions like this in the casino, The pit bosses are told to mixthe spins up, fast and slow rotors etc. This is owned By a WELL KNOWN FORMER IMPRISONED FRAUDSTER and Internet Conman unfortunately (Steven Hourmouzis) . He has done prison for lying, faking sites and reviews of not only me but everyone else in this business. his computer phone is based on free software we give away for free on this very site, so before you are tempted by his lies and fantasies of a $15,000 phone that only obtains a 26% edge, take a moment to think ..Read about his victims at http://stevenhourmouzis.com
He writes convincingly, but so he should, he’s a very dangerous conman and the Police in Australia are well aware of his antics and illegal business competition methods.
You can simply email him and ask him to place an advert on eBay and allow you to use Paypal to pay him for his products and insist that he does this with a full 100% refundable guarantee incorporated. He will obviously refuse because many people have asked why he does not sell this way and build up a Positive Feedback and reputation through eBay if he’s genuine like he claims. The simple and obvious truth is that this guy Steven Hourmouzis is a dangerous Scam Artist and hence its no surprise he did time in prison for internet Fraud previously. His Wife Kylie Tjepkema also supports and helps him in his scam and so does her family( although her family would NOT ALLOW her to take his name, maybe just too ashamed of his former imprisonment for internet Fraud). Its actually Kylie Tjepkema’s family that Hourmouzis lives with with a large mortgage(Her father pays the mortgage for tax reasons),Hourmouzis has not actually not got a pot to piss in . He bragged how he duped her family and her into marriage knowing they had money and would support his lazy criminal lifestyle according to one of his Wife’s Friends who he actually offered money too for sexual favors when she were pregnant . It sounds like something from the Soap Neighbors, but its all true! Like I said, we can ignore the FLIM FLAM, name calling, its all about who has Genuine products and if they offer a 100% PAYMENT PROTECTION PLAN WHERE YOU CAN GET A REFUND EVEN IF THE SELLER REFUSES!
These three sites are set up to SCAM you, if it were not a scam, they would sell through eBay and Paypal and build up Positive Feedback.
site-promotion.com : genuinewinner.com : roulettecomputers.com are scams!
all operating from Australia REFUSING TO OFFER ANY 100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE that can be paid by a third party automatically like eBay and Paypal,
Remember, we see people in person and allow you to pay only a small percentage deposit, this guy does not, ask yourself why? We offer FULL 100% PAYMENT PROTECTION and a 14 day money back guarantee if our products do not work like we claim, ask yourself why on other sellers offer this?
We are not going to say a deal here, like any other business that involves money, you will get cheap imitators knocking competition to increase their own sales instead of improving their products or selling legitimate products or offering part payment plans like we do, 50% deposit, the rest once you are happy with 100% Money Back Guarantees. Some other suppliers are genuine and do sell products that we have evaluated and shown to have an advantage in the casinos. We have tried to maintain an honest opinion of other peoples equipment and without been BIAS towards our own products, we strongly believe our products are the easiest to use and most effective and can deal with Variable Rotor Speeds found currently in Modern Casinos unlike the competitors products that rely on conditions that is EXTREMELY RARE that existed over 30 years ago.
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What we do is wear our products on our sleeves, we sell through Ebay, so you can see our 100% Positive feedback from our users. no other Seller does this and no other sellers show a computer that can beat level wheels! Bear this mind when purchasing from a supplier!
One competitors product ( Steven Hourmouzis ) that costs you $15,000 for is mobile phone runs the basic mathematics we give away for free on this very site! So never pay thousands for a roulette computer!
Forums-Also avoid elaborate Forums set up by systems sellers to write fake positive reviews of their own products pretending to be customers and knocking other competition. Remember Forums are a breeding ground for deception!
Read about other suppliers and the history of such Equipment is OUR